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Simple backup... who or how?
| Posted by andy34, 08-05-2008, 02:34 PM |
| I have a managed dedicated server with a single high-traffic site that weighs in at ~5GB. I'd like a simple back up solution.
Some problems:
1. I do manual FTP backups right now and I have to babysit the process to restart breaks in the connection.
2. Should I ever have to upload it, I'd waste a full day because I can only upload at 1Mbps (I checked for Verizon Fios in my area and it's not available).
3. I have Plesk and while that has a backup tool, it slows down the server for an hour and idiotically zips up the log file (up to an extra 15GB!). As above, the upload speed would still be a problem since I still have to keep that backup somewhere besides the same server (ie download it).
What are my solutions? I'm technically already over my head so I'd want something quick, easy, and simple. The ideal solution would be to have a remote backup with some Plesk Migration Manager-like tool. Or really any other "few clicks to back up" solution that could just as easily be restored.
Is there anything out there for this?
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| Posted by evilghost, 08-05-2008, 03:34 PM |
| Another vote for rsync, which I use personally, tunneled over SSH. Take a look at http://www.rsync.net (the provider I use).
Prior to sending the rsync data it's encrypted via ENCfs which runs in FUSE. Might be an option for you if encryption is a requirement.
Incremental back-ups mean that the initial 'seed' takes the longest, from then on a mirror copy is in place and only changed files are sent. Rsync is very bandwidth friendly, I use it on a 384K upstream line without much issue with a daily delta of around 50 to 100 MB.
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| Posted by BXmanagement, 08-05-2008, 04:57 PM |
| Andy34,
You can also get a secondary drive installed on your server and have a backup generated on the secondary drive each night. This backup process is a lot quicker and uses no bandwidth.
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| Posted by CodyRo, 08-05-2008, 04:58 PM |
| It's typically not good to backup on the same machine - even if its on a different drive / media.
I would recommend a simple rsync solution to begin with
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| Posted by BXmanagement, 08-05-2008, 05:02 PM |
| It's rare for the primary and backup drive to corrupt at the same time. For a simple, small backup, it would be a great way to go.
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| Posted by AL-Benjamin, 08-05-2008, 06:52 PM |
| Another option to look at might be CDP, which has many fans around here. Often easy to impliment as it comes with agents (little bits of software) that do the work for you.
More here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuous_Data_Protection
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| Posted by wrightconsulting, 08-05-2008, 07:07 PM |
| Yet another option is Duplicity for encryption and transfer to an off site storage facility via ssh.
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| Posted by evilghost, 08-05-2008, 09:16 PM |
| Not to be inflammatory, but a backup solution in the same physical location isn't the smartest choice; geographic diversity should be considered one of the criterion.
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| Posted by TheITAdvisory, 08-06-2008, 08:40 AM |
| OK, so now that everyone has told you to do rysnc, and similar software backups, I will give you an easy script I wrote; It's very simple, but feel free to use/modify it which ever way you would like.
Create a new file by doing;
vi backup.sh
Copy and paste this into it;
Now chmod to backup.sh before you run it.
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| Posted by balajee, 08-06-2008, 06:30 PM |
| you could also use the inbuilt resume option of SCP.
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| Posted by ecenica, 08-06-2008, 07:05 PM |
| You might want to consider using Amazon S3 for the location of the backup as this offers a simple and quick offsite solution with multiple redundancies.
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| Posted by andy34, 08-08-2008, 12:21 AM |
| Thanks, but unfortunately I don't have the technical expertise to pull this off. That's why I want something simple.
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| Posted by TheITAdvisory, 08-08-2008, 11:06 PM |
| andy34; That is pretty simple.
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| Posted by andy34, 08-09-2008, 08:48 AM |
| Unlike most people here, I'm not involved in web hosting as a business. Web hosting is a means for my business.
That's what I'd like a one click solution, some control panel like UI.
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| Posted by TheITAdvisory, 08-09-2008, 11:16 AM |
| I see, well in whm/cpanel there is a backup solution built in. In most cases it's a 1-3 click situation.
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